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  • DistroMan 20:00 on December 3, 2011 Permalink
    Tags: Australia, , , , immunisation, , , , , ,   

    When stupidity crosses the line and becomes life threatening. 

    No vaccine has ever undergone a true double-blind crossover placebo study.

    I recently read these words and thought that they couldn’t be true.  How could drugs not be tested properly?  But you see, I am not well versed in the ways of drug/vaccine testing at all.  What should one do in these circumstances?  Research.  It’s not hard these days with the internet and search engines.

    First, I know what a vaccine is.  I’ve had them myself.  So have my children and my grandchildren.  We’re all fine.  What I didn’t know was what a ‘double blind crossover placebo study’ actually meant.  Yes, I get double blind and placebo.  What I didn’t get was ‘crossover’.   From what I gather, if you had 100 people, split into two groups of 50 people each and gave one half the drug and the other half the placebo without anyone knowing what they were getting, you’d have a double blind placebo trial.  The ‘crossover’ means that halfway through the trial you would change them over so that the people getting the drug would now be getting the placebo and the others that were getting the placebo would now be getting the drug.  Neither group would know a change had taken place.

    That sounds all well and good on the surface, but we’re talking about vaccines here.  You can’t do a crossover when the effects of the drug/vaccine don’t just go away when you stop taking them.  Vaccines have long term effects.    They don’t lend themselves to this kind of test.  It just can’t be done.

    So, why would someone purposely make the statement that ‘No vaccine has ever undergone a true double-blind crossover placebo study’?  Well, for a start they are obviously anti vaccine.  Secondly, they seem to have enough of an understanding of vaccines and trials to be dangerous, but not enough to be able to educate themselves or others.

    When people put themselves out there as some kind of authority on a subject with health implications, they should at least have some kind of qualifications to back up their advice.  I have been married to and looked after a Type 1 Diabetic for 32 years now and would never pretend to be able to give advice to others with diabetes.  What is it that makes some people put themselves above properly trained and experienced medical practitioners?  Where do they get the idea that they have the right to make life and death decisions about other peoples children?

    I understand the right to free speech, but not at the cost to our children’s welfare.  When people can’t be bothered to learn the facts about a topic they purport to be an authority on they should shut their mouths.  There is no nice way to put this.  They are endangering lives.  If only one child is harmed due to the ignorance, arrogance and downright stupidity of these people then they should be held accountable.  The problem is that it isn’t only their own children now.  They are convincing other parents to do the same thing and not vaccinate their children as well.  I keep hearing about parents rights to choose for their children, but that isn’t the complete story.  If one child isn’t vaccinated they can then become infected and carry that disease to other children too young to be immunised.

    From Wikipedia: Herd immunity (or community immunity) describes a form of immunity that occurs when the vaccination of a significant portion of a population (or herd) provides a measure of protection for individuals who have not developed immunity. Herd immunity theory proposes that, in contagious diseases that are transmitted from individual to individual, chains of infection are likely to be disrupted when large numbers of a population are immune or less susceptible to the disease. The greater the proportion of individuals who are resistant, the smaller the probability that a susceptible individual will come into contact with an infectious individual.”

    When these people do not immunise their children they directly affect the ability of the herd immunity to do it’s job.  In turn they lessen our ability to protect our children.

    So, when ignorant, uneducated (at least on the vaccine/immunisation topic) morons open their mouths and convince other people to believe their nonsense, it is putting lives at risk.  We don’t let people stand in the middle of the road giving directions to car drivers that would endanger their lives.  We don’t let people wander into schools and take the place of teachers.  We don’t let people wander into hospitals and start dispensing medical advice.

    I’m not just talking about one parent talking to another parent here.  I’m talking about people that set up legal, state sanctioned, incorporated entities.  They use this to convince people they know what they are talking about when they don’t.  They use this to help raise funds to promote their lunacy even further.

    Why are we letting these dangerous fools get away with what is nothing less than attempted manslaughter and what one day soon may actually cause a death?

    SHUT THEM DOWN!

     
  • DistroMan 20:00 on June 11, 2010 Permalink
    Tags: Australia, , , , ,   

    Life’s Good 

    I’m sitting here thinking about my life as it is at this moment and I have to say I’m pretty happy.  Luckily for me I live in a wonderful country with a terrific wife, 3 kids all grown up and moved out.  The eldest has given us two wonderful grandaughters and our youngest has just given us our first grandson.  Our two son-in-laws would do anything for us whenever we asked.  A parent could not ask for more for partners for their daughters.  To top that off we have a great little dog. She has enough heart for a dozen dogs and shows us nothing but love.  Neither of us can walk inside without having her meet us and want to cuddle.  How we managed to meet up with a dog like this is beyond me.  She is a duplicate of our children. Just as lovable, kind, mellow and loyal to a fault.

    I’ve already packed my car with the things I need for a relaxing weekend away with my telescope under dark skies and am about to drop my wife  off at our daughters place.  I can go away knowing she will be well looked after as they are always asking when she is coming to stay next.

    My car passed it’s registration check and the sky is clear.  I’m not starving, in pain or having to worry about work.

    Look at the things that are good in your life and the things you don’t have that could make things worse.

    It’s not that there aren’t things I could ‘not like’ or that have gone wrong, but they only have power to make my life worse if I get them power by looking at them.  If I don’t look at them and make them a factor, they have no meaning.

    If you look at black you will see black.  Look at what and you’ll see white.

    What are you looking at in your life?

    As I said, life is good.

     
  • DistroMan 20:00 on June 9, 2010 Permalink
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    Can you feel that? It’s Election Fever! 

    Twice within the next 12 months, we will be going to the polls here in NSW.  We have the Federal Election coming up this year and a State Election early next year.

    Federally we have Kevin (The Milky Bar Kid) Rudd PM running against Tony (The Mad Monk) Abbott.  Although the Mad Monk’s chances of still being leader at that time aren’t all that high.  With Malcolm Turnbull sitting on the sidelines waiting his chance to topple Tony next time he allows his mouth free reign without the use of his brain, anything could happen.

    This popularity polls are such a close run thing at the moment that nobody is really willing to take a punt on the outcome.  There are people running around like chooks with their heads cut off worrying that Kevin Rudd will get back in.  Why?  Well, it hasn’t been the best of terms for a Prime Minister.  There have been numerous negatives for him over the past couple of years, not least of which is the debacle regarding Roof Insulation.  The thing that gets me every time there is an election is the people who get themselves all bent out of shape over a few things that went wrong.  There has never been a government in the history of this or any other country that didn’t have problems.  If that is all people are going to focus on then they really should not be allowed to vote.  This Labor Government has done so many great things not remembered for more than 1 second by these people that you’d think they never happened.  Australia is lauded worldwide for it’s ability to overcome the Global Financial Crisis as well as it has, but because of that most people didn’t really feel the bite and therefore have no idea how damn lucky they are that Kevin and his team are in power at this time.  The one major thing that stopped Australia from a slide down into a real crisis was the amount of cash dispersed and that it went to the people and not directly to business as it would have under a Liberal government.  Lifelong Liberal voters can say whatever the hell they like, it will not change the fact that we would not have weathered this situation as well as we have under Howard.

    To show you just how wrong they had it, you have to remember that they were the doomsayers of Kevin Rudd’s plan to throw cash around to the people. As far as they were concerned that would do nothing for the economy and would most likely cause things to be worse than they needed to be.  Of course that hasn’t happened and not one of them can acknowledge the fact.  Bipartisanship is dead as far as the Liberal/National Coalition is concerned.

    We will be in real trouble if Tony Abbott becomes Prime Minister.  You only have to listen to the way he changes his mind every time he talks to a different reporter.  His admission that you can’t trust what he says unless it is scripted is something every Australian should keep in mind as we get closer to the election.  His promises mean nothing.  Also, his ability to make things up on the fly without even discussing it with his party should foretell just how policies will be formed.  Do you want this country to be run in that manner?  His off the cuff, slap a bit of undercoat on it, way of coming up with policies is dangerous in the extreme.  Everything we have gained will be lost in favour of big business as it has everytime they regain power.

    Of course it is always those that aren’t on the bottom rung of society in this country that whinge and bitch about Labor, but let them get hit hard and see how fast they change their mind.  For once, the people of this country, all the people, are better off and the only ones who have any reason to complain are BIG business, but that is only because for once they are being asked to pay their way.

    In NSW we have Premier Kristina Keneally running against Barry O’Farrell.

    NSW Labor have had nothing but problems since Bob Carr left office.  The intervening leaders have not been up to scratch.  They did not seem to have decent leadership abilities and be able to get their team to behave.  Their have been numerous ‘scandals’, none of which are big, but enough to annoy people to the point of seeing Labor as a dying proposition.  Now though, we have Kristina.  Sure we still have a couple of problems, but that is the way of government.  This lady has the right stuff and has brought stability to the State.  We have a vision at last and it really is possible to see it all laid out and being put into action.  This is something I have not seen in a long time.  It would be a huge mistake not to keep Labor in this State for at least one more term.  I think everyone would be pleasantly surprised at how far this young woman can and will take us.  Kristina has a strong hand, mind and outlook.  She is determined to do not only a good job, but the best job she can.  This is not an easy task coming on the heels of the problems she inherited from the previous Leaders.  On the other hand, we have Barry O’Farrell.  I’ll be honest with you and say that I don’t watch much television and that would have been a good excuse why I don’t hear much from him, except that it hasn’t stopped me hearing about Kristina day in and day out.  She is a hands on type of person and you can’t help but hear about her and what she is doing.

    This state has picked up under her leadership and it would be a shame to throw away the best opportunity we’ve had in many years for a person we know nearly nothing about and has no track record.

    How much do you know of your State MP? Do you know what they have accomplished in your area?  Or do you only know what the media tell you that gets them ratings?  Do you want media ratings to be the medium which chooses who runs your country?

    I will admit that we will still have problems, but that is normal.  What we won’t have is probably the most important thing.  We won’t have the people looking after business instead of the other way around.  We won’t have the country handed over to the religious right as Tony seems intent on doing.  We will have a fairer system for all and we will have Leaders that listen.  Kevin and Kristina have never stopped holding meetings with the people.  They travel the country and state all the time holding meetings, not only with the little people but with small business owners so they can keep up with the needs of those who are the most in need of help.

    I can only see good things ahead for both State and Country if we keep Labor in power.  The people need to start looking at the good things being done by both governments and not just saying they’ll change sides because of one issue that has grabbed headlines the one night they actually watched the news.  Far too many people vote on one issue in this country and that is not the way to get good government. If you vote against a Party only because you didn’t get the swimming pool your area wanted instead of weighing up all the issues, then you quite probably voted against your best interests.

    The next 12 months will be interesting for anyone who takes notice of the to’s and fro’s of politics in this country.

    Yes, I know what you’re thinking.  You expect that I’m going to vote Labor.  Well, you are doing it again if that is what you are thinking.  You are looking at just this one post and making assumptions that could quite possibly be wrong.  As I’ve been trying to tell you, keeping an eye on things and weighing up all the issues is what is needed and that is exactly what I will be doing.  On their merits at the moment I would vote Labor in both elections, but that may change.

    YOU JUST NEVER KNOW

     
  • DistroMan 20:00 on June 8, 2010 Permalink
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    Q: Are we equal? A: Yes, but no. 

    I’m thinking of the religious amongst us.  If we were to go to a church this Sunday, stand outside and ask people as they emerge if they think we are all equal under God, they would most probably all say yes.  That is presuming that it was a happy clappy, love is in the air type service.  If it happened to be a more fire and brimstone, let’s kill the unbeliever type service there would be a lot of people saying no, but it’s the people who say we are equal that bother me.  I know who to watch out for when they are saying no and putting themselves out there in opposition to us.  But when they are the smiley, I love everybody because Jesus is in my heart type, you can’t tell when they are going to blow and come out against you or in what fashion.  I do admit though that there are plenty who will say we are equal and do honestly believe it.  They also believe that we will never be as happy as them without Jesus, but that is about as far as they go differentiating between us.  I get along really well with them and they are the majority in my life.  There is a troubling trend though.  The good ones are diminishing and the ‘down with the unbelievers’ are growing.

    Just how many who say we are equal are the type who when they go to church and hear their preacher saying that the godless are the enemy, that we eat our babies, that we have no morals, that we would as soon murder our neighbour as eat a hot Sunday lunch, would then sit there nodding their heads in agreement?  Most of them would.  When was the last time you ever saw or heard someone voice disagreement with their preacher?  I know I’ve never heard of it.

    We are told daily that our countries are based on Christian values and the believers are trying to get more and more of the Bible into our government and into our lives whether we are religious or not.  Not only are they trying to get their foot further in the door, but they are also actively trying to do away with anything that proves that their way is not the right way.  Take for example the way Texas have now managed to cut Thomas Jefferson from a list of figures whose writings inspired revolutions in the late 18th century and 19th century.  This is not only going to affect students in that state.  This is not just Texas history they are rewriting.  Any change in history of this magnitude affects the whole world.  There is no such thing as ‘just Texas history’.  History is a planetwide concern and should not be allowed to be rewritten under any circumstances.  This kind of action is tantamount to old style bookburning.

    Here in Australia, the religious have been getting worked up about the non-religious wanting to teach their children ethics.  I have no idea what their real agenda is in this matter, but the best we can think is that while ever we don’t teach ethics and morals to our children it allows them to keep saying that we don’t have any.  Could it really be that they are willing to fight this hard just to stop us proving we can be moral and ethical people just like everybody else?  It’s not that they don’t know it, but I suppose it would stop the preachers saying over and over in church every week how much better they are.  If their flock started to believe that we are just as moral, then what would be the point of Church?

    One day, far in the future, a future I probably won’t live to see, humanity may just learn that religion really is just load of rubbish.  It’s nothing more than fairy stories to control the people.  But this can only happen, ‘will’ only happen if we stop them from taking power again.  We must keep a separation of Church and State so that reasoning people have a chance to see the truth, because even reasoning people who don’t have the truth on display to examine will believe whatever is thrown at them every day of their lives by those who have a vested interest in maintaining power.

    CHURCH <  WIDEN THE GAP  >  STATE

     
  • DistroMan 20:00 on June 2, 2010 Permalink
    Tags: Australia, , , , , , , , , vaccine   

    Anti Vaccination Nutjobs 

    I apologise up front if this article is a disconnected rant, but I’m pissed off and I just have to say something.  I’m fed up with *&^%tards putting my granchildren’s lives at risk and I’m not going to keep quiet about it.  They should be locked up the next time a non vaccinated child dies in this country.

    Really people, I can’t for the life of me understand how so many people can be convinced that having vaccinations is bad for their children.  We had disease out of control around the world early last century with Whooping Cough, Measles, Mumps etc killing millions of children every year around the world.  The vaccines were invented and now we have mostly eradicated the diseases in the more advanced countries and are slowly winning in the less advanced.

    Just because YOU don’t see anyone with those diseases does NOT mean that they aren’t around.  Let’s take one scenario that happened just recently.  A child that had not been vaccinated was taken abroad and had come into contact with the Mumps.  Once back in the country he had contact with over 800 people of which around a third were children.  Some of those children also were not vaccinated and contracted the disease as well.  Luckily nobody died, but that is more good luck than good management.  The thing is that it need never have happened if those children were vaccinated when they should have been.

    The part that is really worrying health authorities is that there are morons out there promoting non vaccination of children and it’s catching on because YOU are believing them.  The more that don’t vaccinate, the more chance of an outbreak and deaths of innocent children.  These kids should not be being put in the firing line just so some idiots can flex their ‘freedom of speech’ muscles and show how great they are.  It’s nothing but a freaking power trip and it’s getting out of hand.  It’s not just their own children they are putting at risk, but the children of other parents who have sided with them and not had their kids vaccinated.  To make matter worse it will be even worse for those parents with children too young to have had the vaccines or have not finished the course.  Those parents are doing the right thing and yet they may still lose their children because of these unthinking, uncaring, power hungry bastards.

    Only just last night, 1st June 2010, in Perth WA a seminar was held promoting non-vaccination of children.  The complete lunacy these people spew forth is mind boggling.  Their ‘sky is falling’ mentality is going to cost lives and they should be held accountable for them.  I’m so fed up with the ‘freedom of speech’ crap that is allowing them to get away with it every damn day.  There has to be a way of stopping this and as nobody wants to curtail freedom of speech, I would recommend that the vaccines be made compulsory and then they can say what they bloody like.

    Would you really believe someone who told you the HIV/AIDS virus has never been seen?

    Would you believe someone telling you the mercury in the vaccines will kill you?  It isn’t in all of them and you’d get more from a small can of tuna anyway.

    Would you believe them if they told you the government was making the diseases themselves just to force the vaccines on you?

    Would you believe someone who told you the medical professionals themselves don’t even vaccinate their children?

    They are lying to you.  Educate yourselves and look after your children.  Research it and you will see the truth for yourselves.  Go to your doctor and ask.  Go to your local Health Centre and ask.  Ring the Health Department and ask.

    Their ‘God’ is ex Dr Andrew Wakefield who was just struck off the Medical Register for his wacky theories and practices.  I beg you, don’t listen to these people.  They may claim to be informed, but that is only with false information.  They make it sound plausible by showing graphs and studies done by people who don’t even have a clue what they are doing.  The cherry picking of information to make their stance sound better has been shown over and over again.  THEY CAN’T BE TRUSTED and they will put your children’s lives at risk.  If I hear the words ‘Big Pharma’ one more time I’m going to scream.

    PLEASE VACCINATE YOUR CHILDREN

     
  • DistroMan 20:00 on May 31, 2010 Permalink
    Tags: Abbott, Australia, , , , , , , , , , ,   

    I’m having a crisis of faith. 

    Ok, ok, it’s not what you think.  It’s to do with politics.  As some of you may have gathered over the months, I’m a staunch Labor voter here in Australia.  I always have voted Labor and would like to think I always would.  BUT, it is quite likely that my vote will now be going to the Greens at this years Federal Election.  There is no way that the Liberal/National Coalition will ever see a vote from me while ever they support big business over the people of this country.  They have dragged us down from a nation of workers with respect, to a nation of workers that have had to grovel and beg for their rights.  That may never change as governments are most often reluctant to undo changes made by previous governments.  Yes, I know it has happened and has when Labor won government at the last election, but they only went so far and way too many workers have fallen by the wayside since.  There are too many sweatshop type businesses operating in this country and far too many operating with illegal immigrants to save money.  If they are unable to get the work done cheap enough here, many are now moving production offshore and still using sweatshop labour when selling here at top prices.

    This need to pander to big business, together with the reluctance to stand up to the Christian Right is turning Australia into a Nanny State.  Most religions are now only just businesses anyway, so there isn’t much difference between the two.  Business gives them money to fund elections and the religious give them a big block of votes.

    If we just look at the current situation, we have Labor wanting to put a larger tax onto mining companies, but hit us with an internet filter that is censorship at it’s worst.  The Liberal/National Coalition would scrap the tax and let business be subsidised by the workers again, but say they would scrap the filter.  Both are pandering to the Christians.  Neither can be trusted not to change their minds once they win government though.

    We are at a crossroads here in Australia where the Greens are now at a stage where they have enough power to force governments to deal with them on a day to day basis.  Not only that, if things continue the way they are, we may end up with another Coalition that includes the Greens the way they have had to do in Tasmania this year.  I do not think the Greens have the depth in their ranks to take government and do the job on their own even if they did win enough seats.  They just don’t have that kind of experience.  But as a power behind the power, they are uniquely qualified to steer this country in the right direction.  A direction that will bring it back to the place it deserves.  We have fought hard to keep this country ‘Australian’ and by that I mean the qualities that make it Australian, not the ‘white nationalist’ qualities some would prefer and not the ’51st State of the USA’ that others seem intent on accomplishing.

    I say screw the business interests and screw the religious sycophants.  Give the Greens the power to turn this country into a social and environmental success while the Labor Party look after the economic and international side of affairs.  The rest they can haggle over.

    The two major parties have shown they are only interested in staying in government and they don’t care what the people say.  Neither of them really want to do anything in electorates that aren’t their own.  Too many independents are only there to push their own shortsighted and narrow religious views.  There are the exceptions, but not many.  On their own they have limited power and when it is only their vote that can win the day, they have far too much power invested in that one person.

    While a Labor/Greens Coalition may just end up like the Liberal/National Coalition, it won’t do it right away.  That may just give us time to fix the problems and show them all that things can be done in a better manner.  I say we give the Greens a go.  It certainly can NOT be worse than what we have now.

    ONLY A GREEN VOTE WILL HAVE REAL POWER THIS YEAR

     
    • Greybeard 20:42 on May 31, 2010 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      You had me going for a minute. I thought you were about to 'out' yourself as a new member of Senator Fielding's Hillbilly 'Family First' party!

    • nathanlee123 05:12 on June 1, 2010 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Well, the only trouble will be that (like in US politics) we'll be dividing votes that probably would have gone to Labor and letting the liberals get first past the post.

      Tony Abbott is too fucking scary to contemplate: the man's not only a climate change denialist, he's a creationist, homophobe and let's not forget how he acted while in charge of health (abortion drugs needed his approval for some bizarre reason) and his stance on stem cell research was appallingly ignorant.

      So I'd say that I agree with you that (like the last few elections) it's important to send a message, and I have voted in that fashion before (a labor/greens coalition might be interesting), but not so much that you let tony abbott end up in power (e.g. then we're doubly screwed: no talk of "postponing" climate action, just "it isn't our fault and mining rocks and saved us all from poverty!")

      Anyhow, we've got preferential voting: use it people. Just be aware of another family first nutjob sneaking in via the quirks of it.

  • DistroMan 20:00 on May 30, 2010 Permalink
    Tags: Australia, , Conroy, , , , Lundy, Milky Bar, , ,   

    If Labor loses this election, you can blame Stephen Conroy. 

    Ever since the moronic notion of filtering the Internet entered Stephen Conroy’s head or was injected by someone else (probably a Lib/Nat), Labor has been inching ever closer to losing the upcoming election. The even stranger part is that they have had their heads so far up their own propaganda that they can’t see the outcome even though over 90% of the population has been screaming it at them since the last election.

    I can’t imagine how many children will still be hurt and criminals evade justice because Conroy and his cohort are going to waste $128.8 million on this farce instead of injecting it into the budget of the department of the Federal Police that looks after child crimes.  How much good could be  done if they had the resources they require to catch the pedophiles and child pornographers?

    Conroy has repeatedly asked people why they don’t care about children when they have opposed the Filter.  I have to ask if he is willing to go to jail for the rest of his life if the crimes he says will drop actually go up after introduction of the Filter.  No ifs, ands buts or maybes this time.  No worming his way out of it.  He’s asked the question enough times himself.  Is he willing to pay the price when he’s shown to be wrong?  Not that it will ever happen, because if Labor do not change their mind on this policy within the next month it will be too late to drag back the support they are losing at the moment.  I have been amazed at the amount of people who swear their allegiances will change at the next election if this goes ahead.  This is not just a one time ‘bad decision’ they can overcome with time.  This will leave a stain on the Labor movement that will last while ever people remember what has been done.

    The absolute uncaring attitude towards the people of this country that is being shown is not something that I had ever expected to see in my lifetime.  I have always voted Labor and had planned to always do so.  The minor parties have always seemed to be more trouble than they are worth and the Liberal/National Coalition is way too synonymous with ‘Big Business’ to ever attract my vote.  Their philosophy of taking care of the BHP’s and Rio Tinto’s of this country so that the dollars trickle down to us was, is and always will be crap.  The more they make the more profits go to the investors instead of dropping prices.  That is not in our interest.  The smaller parties have had no significant influence on anything of any real importance to the population until the last election and it seems to be more the independents (read christian backed morons) that are making the biggest noises.  Though it does look likely that the next election will be when the ‘Rise of the Greens’ really happens and they will have to be courted in a much more significant manner than ever before.  Maybe even a coalition of Labor/Greens?

    Whatever happens all depends on whether Rudd has enough commonsense and courage to put Conroy back in his bottle and bury him in the backbenches where he belongs.  Give that job to Kate Lundy and let’s fix this mess up now before it is too late.  The Lib/Nats are licking their lips everytime Conroy promotes the filter.  We all know that Abbott is a losing proposition for them after his and Ms Bishops faux pa’s of the last couple of weeks.  Malcolm Turnbull didn’t just change his mind because he likes being in opposition.  He has the numbers and knows that he will be back as leader very shortly and when he is, you’ll hear real opposition to the filter from them as well.

    Rudd must come out in direct opposition to the filter and soon.  He must be seen to be firm in his opposition now that the facts are in.  Yes, we’ve known they’ve been in for a long time, but he has to play the game.  It’s either that or be relegated to history as the PM that had no balls to do what he knew was right.

    HAS THE MILKY BAR KID BEEN OUT IN THE SUN TOO LONG?

     
    • Greybeard 22:14 on May 30, 2010 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      State controlled internet access is the thin end of the wedge but maybe if he was proposing filtering out the Vatican and the Australian Christian Lobby I might be more interested!

      Yes, Conroy is a liability to Labor – but his poor performance could easily be cancelled out on the Coalition side by their own resident liability, Barnaby Joyce!

      It get's worse – just imagine if we get a hung Parliament and Senator Fielding's bunch of Hillsong Hillbillies get enough seats to hold the balance of power!

  • DistroMan 20:00 on May 29, 2010 Permalink
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    Should a Politician put aside their religious beliefs when making decisions? 

    The simple answer would seem to be yes to anyone who understands that to fairly administer a nation for all citizens you need to be able to know what the peoples needs are and how to fulfil them in a fair and just manner, not only from your own persepective, but from theirs as well.  If you are a religious person it seems that it is nigh on impossible for you to do this.  Just lately this has been shown to be true for about 90 percent of the religious community that have had anything to do with decision making.  The Ethics Classes debate has shown most religious people only care about keeping kids in the Special Religious Education classes and not at all about those who don’t attend.  Those who don’t attend are left to fend for themselves and aren’t really bothered about unless they wish to do something useful and then they are stopped.  It seems that Scripture is the be all and end all of their existence and what others needs are don’t matter.

    I do have to say here that the Muslim community have shown themselves to be the more openminded and are quite happy for the classes to go ahead. I and many others applaud their support at this time.

    The Australian Christian Lobby on the other hand are mobilising as much support against the classes as they can muster and seem to be of the mind that they are the absolute arbiters of what should be taught, where it should be taught, when it should be taught and who teaches it.

    Look at what is about to happen shortly and you can see that the religious are getting their way much more than you would have thought.  On 21st June Prime Minister Rudd and the Opposition Leader Tony Abbott will address Australian churches via a web-cast.  I have never heard of such a thing in my life.  What has so radically changed in this country that they are giving in to one group to such an extent?  It just shows that the leaders in this country not only have religious leanings, which in and of itself is alright, but have a bias towards religion that is blinkering their outlook on the community as a whole.  It’s not that there is anything overt being done that has affected us, but more that when we speak, we aren’t heard.  It’s like we don’t exist at times.

    No politician should be giving in to any one group over others consistently or to be seen to be playing favourites in this manner.  There is a section of politics that is fighting back, but they are small and don’t have the numbers to make changes as easy as other factions.  It is up to us, the people who are fed up with the way things are, to support these people and help them make the changes we wish to see.  If  we don’t, then we have no right to be complaining when next our lives are disrupted by religion getting in the way.  We are a bigger part of the community than even most of us are aware and if we mobilise ourselves and make ourselves heard we can bring this country back into balance.

    You, as an atheist, agnostic, freethinker, secularist, humanist or another religous person that thinks the christians in this country have far too great a say in our lives, then you need to start asking what you can do to change things for the better.  Help these brave politicians.  Sign their petitions, attend  parliament, write letters and emails.  It really now has come to the time that you need to make yourself heard.  I hate to have to put it as plainly as this, but…

    IT’S TIME TO PUT UP OR SHUTUP

     
  • DistroMan 20:00 on May 28, 2010 Permalink
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    Alarming rise in the rate of infection of the ‘Stupid Virus’. 

    I have been getting quite ticked off lately over a few things happening in this country that come down to ‘giving in’ to the nutters in our society.  Today two more have arisen that are really taking stupidity to new levels.  On top of the recent Ethics Classes debate we now have the following idiocies to contend with and attempt to stop.

    Now we have the Anti-Vaccination Nutters causing vaccination rates to plummet and put our children in harms way.  In Western Australia vaccination levels are dropping at an alarming rate and don’t look like stopping anytime soon.  With the recent problems over the Flu Vaccine this is only going to get worse.  I can’t understand how people can say that vaccination is bad for our children.  We have come so far from the days of measles, polio, whooping cough and chicken pox it is unthinkable that we are going to let these morons take us back to the dark ages of child health care.  Due to a few unthinking people we now have seminars being held in this country trying to talk parents out of vaccinating their children against these terrible diseases.  I hope they are willing to pay the price themselves, because if the infection rates of diseases like polio start to climb they should be held accountable.  If you incite someone to murder you are held accountable and it should be so in this case as well.

    To make matters worse we now have the Western Australian Government allowing these Anti-Vaxxers to use government facilities to spread their misinformation.  The governments of this country spend an enormous amount of our money to educate people about the positive side of vaccination.  We vaccinate  the children in the schools so we know who has had it.  Now they spend our money to promote the opposite side?  I’m quite a bit more than disappointed about this matter and have written to several of the MP’s in Western Australia.  Responses range from ‘prove it’ to ‘we have noted your concerns’.

    This next section was written in response to this article.

    To top that off Australian doctors are now talking about reforms to allow them to perform Female Genital Mutilation procedures.  I will continue to use that term no matter what they wish to call it themselves, because it is still mutilation of a human body for no positive purpose.  It only has a negative outcome.  I am appalled at the idea that they think this could be a good thing to do under any circumstances.  I get what they are saying that the negative outcomes of backyard procedures is a problem and that at least if they do them, there is less of a problem of disease etc, but that is still wrong.

    We must never give in to this form of barbarism under any circumstances.  Put that effort into stamping it out.  There has to be harsher penalties for this kind of behaviour as well.  We don’t allow torture of infants and there are consequences for those offences so why not do the same for this offence?  Double the penalty.  Triple it for all I care, but this must be stopped and not be given in to.

    Then this article comes in which completely repudiates the last one.  I am thrilled that the original article was wrong, but where did the information really come from and by whom was it given credence?  This unconscionable behaviour seems designed to stir up trouble and sell up the ratings. It’s a shameful act and one that makes it hard to take anything on their site with any seriousness.

    We still have to worry about the coddling of the religious zealots and their barbaric practices though.  How long before we stand up for basic human rights in this country so that none of this is even necessary?

    ANTI ETHICS – ANTI VACCINATION – FEMALE MUTILATION

    WHEN WILL COMMONSENSE PREVAIL IN THIS COUNTRY?

     
  • DistroMan 20:00 on May 26, 2010 Permalink
    Tags: , Australia, , , , , , , , , , , , ,   

    Ethics Trial debate is becoming a farce. 

    Abbreviations:

    * SRE – Special Religious Education – Single faith instruction, usually by a ‘chaplain’ of that faith.

    ** GRE – General Religious Education – Comparative religious instruction on many faiths.

    Last night on television here in Australia a show called Insight had a somewhat varied group discussing their opinion on the Ethics Classes that the Education Department hope to introduce on a fulltime basis.  As you have probably seen from previous articles I have written on the subject, the religious community have gotten in on the act and are trying every tactic they can think of to stop these classes going ahead.  We have heard arguments that:

    • it isn’t necessary because they already have religious classes
    • it has no moral basis
    • ethics lacks substance
    • the term ‘ethics’ is problematic
    • it’s not fair and just to the religious children
    • it’s hostile to religion
    • it just shouldn’t happen because they have an agreement with the government
    • you can’t teach ethics outside a religious framework
    • the children’s minds can’t critically analyse ethics
    • philosophy discussion ‘problematic’ at that age (10 to 12)
    • the work of the Greek and Roman philosophers is irrelevant to ethics
    • afraid more children will opt out of SRE*
    • wasn’t implemented in a way they approve of

    They gave some of the children a chance to give their opinion and describe the classes they are involved in.  I was amazed at the explanations of the ethics given by the children and how it was being taught, but the religious in the group could not come up with one reason that countered the children’s wish to continue.

    It was explained by the person who originally put the syllabus together that scenarios are tailored for the age groups they are given to so that the children can not only comprehend the problem put to them, but analyse it and come up with different ways of dealing with them and then discussing those ideas amongst themselves with the objective of finding better solutions to ethical problems in their lives.

    The Anglican Minister confused me with his objections.  I can only think that he has no idea how atheism is defined.  He said,

    “If there was an atheistic teaching system we would be happy with that at the same time. Teaching all faiths is better than ethics with no faith component”

    and something about

    “Atheistic religion it’s a religion of some sort.”

    I don’t know what he is thinking because I’m not sure he knows himself.  None of his objections made sense and he was less than helpful in the discussion.  Whilever we include clueless people in these discussions, an outcome is impossible.

    The children who were removed from the SRE* classes told the audience that they were allowed to:

    • watch movies
    • read books in library or in the back of SRE* Classes
    • played on computer

    This is the part that really upsets the Non Religious parents.  Why, when the ‘religious’ children are being taught something their parents and the ‘chaplains’ are happy with, are our children being made to go without?  Blaming us for not wanting our children in those classes is no more than a smokescreen to reflect the responsibility back on us.  The trouble most of us have with that is that they wan to have their cake and eat it too.  I’ll explain what I mean by that.

    We take our children out of the SRE* classes, and they say it’s our fault. Fine, we take responsibility for our own children the same way they do for theirs.  Our children sit doing nothing and they say that’s our fault as well.  Sorry, but that’s not true.  It was part of the agreement they had with the government.  Why they would ever have made an agreement that the non SRE* children were not to be allowed to undertake educational activities is something they need to answer for as it is neither an ethical or moral stance.  So we took appropriate action to give our children a positive educational influence during that time and then they want responsibility back and the authority to stop us teaching ethics to our children.  We took them out of those classes and they didn’t care.  Our children sat idle and they didn’t care.  Why so much concern now?

    They showed a clip of one Minister teaching 10 to 12yr olds with toy bears.  THAT does not seem age appropriate to me.  If you can’t do better than that, it will only reinforce the decision to keep our children out of SRE.  While I certainly do not believe that all ‘chaplains’ would be that bad, I can only assume that they would have tried to show their best to the world.  If that is so, it was a pretty pathetic ‘best’.  They did themselves a great disservice and only managed to show how poor SRE* can be as an educational tool.

    It was also a sad reflection on the Victorian State Government to hear that they wouldn’t allow Humanist/Secular Ethics classes in Victoria because the group proposing it weren’t religious.  It really does show that the Christian Lobby in this country have quite a stranglehold on our Education Departments.  This is inappropriate in this day and age.  It needs to be looked at seriously and a resolution sought that will allow for our children to get better educations free of the restraints being imposed by a ‘special interest group’.  It is their ‘interest’ and not that of the wider community.

    Let’s get to some facts.

    1. They have the classes for their children that they want.
    2. We don’t have an existing alternative.
    3. Their children learn scripture according to their groups beliefs.
    4. Our children are banned from learning anything during that time.
    5. Some parents put their children into the SRE* classes because there is no alternative class.
    6. If there was an alternative, they would change their children over to that class as has already been shown during the trial.
    7. There has been up to 47% drop in SRE* attendance in some classes.

    This whole debate is entirely unnecessary.

    • They have their classes for their children, so why complain?
    • They haven’t cared about our children going without before, so why are they so interested in what we ‘do’ teach our children now?
    • Our children learning ethics is a good thing, so why complain?
    • They have GRE**, SRE*, Church, Sunday School and home. What more do they need?

    It really boils down to this:  The children of religious parents have the right to have their children taught the belief system they choose.  We, as either non-believers or parents whose children’s school does not have a chaplain for their ‘belief system’ would prefer to have our children taught ethics.  Why when they get exactly what they want do they think they have the right to deny us the exact same thing?

    Again, the explanation is simple.  They have to ‘automatically respect’ the other religions so they don’t make a noise about children of other faiths being taught in SRE*.  But we aren’t religious and are not given that respect.  We are nothing to them and in their opinion we don’t have equivalent rights to teach our children ethics.  It would not be in any of their interests for our children to be shown to be becoming more moral and ethical without their so-called religious beliefs.  It would once and for all show to the world that their gods and prophets are not needed for us to be good people.  They will continue to fight this even if we do get these classes approved.  It is not in their interests for us to be good.  How then do they claim that without God, there is no morals, no goodness, no compassion etc?  What use will there be for religion if that happens?

    THE DEMISE OF RELIGION IS AT HAND

     
    • Kat 11:58 on May 27, 2010 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      I am a strong supporter of teaching ethics in primary and philosophy to high school age students. One of the things that most strongly affected my thinking as a child was that while Mum wanted us to go to Catholic school where our thinking was often stifled – my father taught us many philosophies, encouraged critical thinking and had many ethical discussions on many topics.
      I taught my children ethics when they were primary school age and Philosophy when high school age. Even though my daughter has not pursued it academically – it has helped her make good life choices and decisions. My son is still interested and continually questions and discusses ethics and philosophy daily.

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