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  • DistroMan 20:00 on June 4, 2010 Permalink
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    P.O.P.E. Pissing Off People Endlessly 

    The Pope’s linking of Islam to violence during a speech in Germany led to outrage in the Muslim world, nearly forcing cancellation of a trip to Turkey in 2006.

    Another controversy arose from his remarks on a trip to Africa that condoms can “make the continent’s AIDS epidemic worse”.

    He  made comments in Brazil that Latin America’s native people “wanted” to become Christian even before Europe’s conquerors arrived.

    Pope Benedict XVI called abortion and same-sex marriage some of the most “insidious and dangerous” threats facing the world today.

    In suffering, you will discover an interior peace and even spiritual joy.

    In Latin America the Pope said, “There is another disquieting trend, authoritarian forms of government and regimes wedded to certain ideologies that we thought had been superseded.” Here the Pope seemed clearly to be referring to leftist governments such as the Venezuelan regime of Hugo Chavez, who has clashed frequently with Church leaders there.

    An Irish government-organized compensation board has paid out more than $983 million to 13,000 people abused in Ireland’s church-run residential institutions for children. Why do the Irish people have to pay when the Vatican has more money than they do and they were the ones doing wrong?

    Archbishop Timothy Dolan, hand picked by Pope to join the Child Sex Abuse Probe in Ireland let a priest sue his accuser in St Louis and fought against reforming Wisconsin child sex abuse law.  Is this the right person to be on the panel?

    Cardinal Murphy-O’Connor is also a Papal choice for the Irish Probe.  It was Cardinal Murphy-O’Connor’s decision in 1985, when he was bishop of Arundel and Brighton, to move Fr Michael Hill to a chaplaincy at Gatwick airport.  Eighteen months previously the cardinal had removed Hill from ministry because of child abuse allegations but then allowed him back to work at the airport where Hill abused a child. Hill was jailed in 2002.   Is this the right person to be on the panel?

    British Taxpayers are to be asked to pay over $24.2 million to help fund the Pope’s visit in September all because ex Prime Minister Gordon Brown wanted the visit to help shore up Labour’s vote among the faithful in Scotland.

    It seems that there is a never-ending onslaught of Papal intervention in the affairs of Sovereign Governments these days.  When the Vatican seems less and less capable of even taking care of it’s own house you would think that they would be better off STFU.  But no, they seem quite willing to carry on laundering money, abusing children, raping nuns, avoiding the law, pimping, causing the deaths of hundreds of thousand by denying their followers the use of condoms, allow mothers to die during childbirth by denying abortion, allowing women to get pregnant too many times and risking their lives by denying the use of condoms and birth control.  All this and more while they put themselves up as the moral arbiters of our actions.

    The furor over child abuse has been growing steadily for around two decades and yet they still sit on their hands and wait for ‘nothing’ to happen.  Popey Joe continues to talk about ‘decisive action’ but none has been taken.  He has only just gotten around to naming a panel of ‘men of the cloth’ to go to Ireland and he couldn’t even get that right.  At least a third of them have questions to answer about their own activities.  How can anyone take them seriously when they themselves haven’t even cleared their own names.  Joe travels around the world spewing forth about the abuse and how it is ‘wrong’ and ‘evil’, but only blames the secular community, homosexuals or lack of faith by Catholics themselves.  One of his Cardinals even went so far as to accuse the children of ‘wanting it’.

    The US government is now involved in helping him avoid trial.  Their Supreme Court is so top heavy with Catholic Judges that they won’t give a verdict themselves on whether the Pope is immune from lawsuit, but have asked the Obama Administration to tell them what they should do.  What use are Judges if they won’t judge?  Of course, if they decide not to follow the Administration’s recommendations, then the Pope could still face trial if he is ever stupid enough to step foot on US soil.  I ‘pray’ that they do and he does.

    JOE AND BUBBA SITTING IN A CELL

     
  • DistroMan 20:00 on March 24, 2010 Permalink
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    Secularism is to blame for Child Abuse in Ireland says Pope – Part Two 

    Part Two

    8. First you have the arrogance to tell the parents how they feel. Not having children (or do you) how can you know?  You know nothing. If you did have even a small amount of real knowledge of what it is to be a parent, you would have done something much earlier instead of writing a how-to for priests who need to get out of trouble. You completely lack any credibility in this area.

    Then you start telling parents how their children should be brought up. Considering you are the leader of a sex starved organisation of men and women, you least of all, have a right to be telling them their children need to be taught how to behave by the Catholic Church.

    9. “Your experience of the Church is very different from that of your parents and grandparents.” I doubt that actually. Maybe it is, but only in the fact that you have been caught. With the sectarian war raging in that country it would have been near impossible for the children to speak out. Even if they did, the parents could hardly have said anything. Before that, communication being what it was in this world, everyone was so cut off that the children would have felt even more powerless than they do now. My bet is that it was even worse back then. But how would you know? You’d have to care first.

    “We are all scandalized by the sins and failures of some of the Church’s members.”  Some of the Church’s members Joe? How about you stop trying to minimise the whole event and tell it like it is.  Many of the Church’s members, sounds a whole lot more honest. You remember honesty don’t you Joe?  Understatement is as bad as fabrication under the circumstances.

    “But it is in the Church that you will find Jesus Christ, who is the same yesterday, today and for ever.” As are the priests, and that is what worries me most.  I have very little doubt that they will continue in the same way after a period of abstinence.  It’s the nature of the beast.  Man is not meant for that life.  It is unnatural and you have it within your power to change it.

    “He loves you and he has offered himself on the cross for you.”  Ah, you admit it now.  He did that crap to himself.  You can’t call that abuse when he did it himself willingly. How is that abuse? We call that masochism these days. Which would also make him a sadist as he did it to himself.  So your god is a sadomasochist.  It all seems to flow from there.  No wonder the Church as a whole is a hotbed of moral turpitude.

    “for he will never betray your trust!.” It seems that is exactly what just happened. People put their trust in him and they were repaid with deceit and abuse. That is not something new for the Catholic Church.

    “He alone can satisfy your deepest longings and give your lives their fullest meaning by directing them to the service of others.” Looks like he satisfied someones longings, just not the children’s, and they were directed towards the service of the priesthood. It is as it always has been and always will be.

    10. Please, oh please my priests, help me keep my position of power?  Lame.

    11. Laying blame and distancing yourself again. You do say that leadership was lacking, but you fail to go as far as it being your leadership that was lacking.  Take responsibility for this.  That is what fathers do.

    “Only decisive action carried out with complete honesty and transparency will restore the respect and good will of the Irish people towards the Church to which we have consecrated our lives.” True, but it has to happen from the top.  How many times does this need to be said before you understand?

    “This must arise, first and foremost, from your own self-examination, inner purification and spiritual renewal.” No Joe, from the top. You must show leadership. You must be a role model. Not just a powerless, annoyed and cowardly father figure.

    “In particular, I ask you to be attentive to the spiritual and moral lives of each one of your priests. Set them an example by your own lives.”  You  are asking them to do what you yourself need to do.  Lead by example. If a priest has wronged he must admit that wrong and step down. If a bishop has wronged, he must admit it and step down. That goes all the way up the line to you. You failed in your leadership. You set a bad example and must take personal responsibility.  Step down Joe.  Do the right thing.

    12. “we need to find new ways to pass on to young people the beauty and richness of friendship with Jesus Christ in the communion of his Church.” New ways Joe?  The church is so bogged down in the past with outdated rules and rituals that it can’t do anything new.   For a start, you won’t let it.  You have kept trotting out ridiculous rules that are costing millions of lives.  You can’t expect sexually frustrated people to contain themselves. Your God has never been able to help them with that and so it will continue. The lifestyle you expect them to lead is untenable, unworkable and unjust.  The ‘new’ needs to happen, I agree, but start with new rules that save lives and don’t pit one person against another.

    “By treading the path marked out by the Gospel, by observing the commandments and by conforming your lives ever more closely to the figure of Jesus Christ, you will surely experience the profound renewal that is so urgently needed at this time. I invite you all to persevere along this path.” Fundamentalism is never the answer. You will only create more problems for future generations to have to deal with.  You had just finished talking about ‘new ways’ and now you go backwards.  Make up your mind.

    13. “I am praying earnestly that, by God’s grace, the wounds afflicting so many individuals and families may be healed”. The problem is though that your prayer is only offering hope. It cannot be known that it will come to fruition. Therefore, you risk future atrocities. How can you take such a risk with even more children?  You don’t have the right.

    14. “I now wish to propose to you some concrete initiatives to address the situation.” When I read the word ‘concrete’ I stupidly expected to hear something concrete, like excommunication for offending priests, hard and fast rules to help put a stop to further occurrences of child abuse. But what do you propose? Prayer, hope, wishes, outdated ritual and meaningless pap. Joe, that is nothing more than mystical hand waving in a cloud of smoke. You may as well say, “abracadabra, see, all fixed now”.

    You end with a prayer. Nothing unusual there. The last section of said prayer goes:

    To you, Triune God,
    confident in the loving protection of Mary,
    Queen of Ireland, our Mother,
    and of Saint Patrick, Saint Brigid and all the saints,
    do we entrust ourselves, our children,
    and the needs of the Church in Ireland.

    Really Joe? Entrust the children to the church? Again? Hasn’t that already been proven to be unsuccessful? How many more children are you willing to sacrifice to your priests before you wake up to the fact that it won’t work. It does NOT work. It never worked, it isn’t working and it will never work with a church so full of itself and the power it holds over the people.

    Is this the same meaningless drivel you intend to offer to people in the United States, Africa, Australia, The Netherlands, Switzerland, Germany, Austria and everywhere else your beloved church has infected the land and abused the children?

    This is shameful and you should be ashamed. Ashamed of yourself for betraying your followers in their greatest time of need.

    Fathers who care for their children arrive at a time when they have a talk with their sons about responsibility and the choices they will have to make in their lives. Occasionally it is turned around and a son has to have a talk to a wayward parent. If that parent cares more for their children than themselves, they will listen. Joe, it is time for you to listen to your children. Listen to their pain. Their cries of anguish. Their pleading with the church as a whole to stop.  Or do you wish people to see you as a child who sticks their fingers in their ears and yells, “I can’t hear you!” ?

    To the Catholic people I say that this outrage is not your fault and you should not have to pay the price. Nor should your children. The Church has shown you nothing but contempt by the way you have been so shabbily treated in this matter. Every step of the way they have been full of words to make you feel better, but without making one meaningful step in that direction. You have been praying for centuries and this still happened. Do not let them tell you prayer will get you out. If you do that, your children and grandchildren will pay the price as you have done. Force them to change. I beg of you, for the sake of the children, not to step foot inside a church till the Pope agrees to real change. You must force them to put child proof locks on the churches. They must never again be left alone for one moment with children.

    To Joe. The bottom line here is that the people trusted you and the church to do the right thing. The church certainly let them down as it has always done.  But it was your job to change things.  If not yours Joe, then whose? You are the Pope. You knew of the atrocities being committed upon children from decades earlier all across the globe. You knew. When you became Pope you had the opportunity to start fixing things of this nature immediately and yet you did nothing. If you had been more devoted to the children instead of the church you may have lifted a finger to help, but when your attention is firmly fixed more on saving face and power, you fail in your mission. You do not deserve to be Pope. Step down Joe. Shut up shop. Put out the closed for business sign and fade away as gracefully as you are able. If you are unwilling to do that, then the least you can and should do, what is in the best interests of the people, is some real words meant to change things, not just prayer and wishes, but action.

    Something like the following:

    “These children are the future of our world, and they must not be made to bear the ignominy of the past. We shall set a goal that ANY priest, or nun, of any rank involved in these activities shall be cast out of this church and subject to the law of the land wherein the offenses took place, and a zero-tolerance policy regarding sexual abuse will be in force from this day onward.”

     
    • eda 10:10 on March 24, 2010 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      …The lifestyle you expect them to lead is untenable, unworkable and unjust….I guess this is the real problem. I like that you actually came up with some concrete solutions and mentioned that the church needs to be child proof. That's a really good start, any chance Joe follows your blog???

    • Loren 11:14 on March 24, 2010 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      The problem is simple – dear Papa Joe is insulated and isolated from anyone who might supply the brand of constructive negative feedback that could have sufficient power to awaken him from his reverie. The only outsiders who could get close enough, heads of state, most notably, suffer too much from an overdeveloped sense of diplomacy to consider such frank language. It will most likely require a chance act, likely during a public event involving ol' Joe, both to shake him and the sleepwalkers of his flock out of their torpor and recognize that the pontiff has no clothes.

      Such an event could get very ugly … but then, what has happened behind closed doors is already far more than ugly.

    • Richard C Brown 12:15 on March 24, 2010 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      About 30 years ago I did a seminar.At the end there was a question.The question was about the identity of god.
      The answer"She is Black and Beautiful"rang through the auditorium.I have pondered the question since.Maybe in the Church She is the secret being kept under the floors of the Vatican.
      Us guys never seem to get it right and the closest the church has come to the feminine is Mary.
      The spirit of the man jesus must really go bonkers at the churches actions today.By the way what does the holy ghost do at times like these.
      What and the hell is the pope telling the upstairs peoples.Same political BS as those reporting to the president of the USA.
      For a win/win what must take place?Keep speaking up and out..Communication works when heard.

  • DistroMan 20:00 on March 23, 2010 Permalink
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    Secularism is to blame for Child Abuse in Ireland says Pope – Part One 

    The Pope’s verdict is in.  It’s our fault.  Secularism is to blame.  Who knew?

    After more than 15,000 reported cases of child abuse Pope Benedict XVI has written a ‘pastoral letter’ to the people of Ireland.  That link will give you the whole thing, the real deal.  As of this moment I have read 1/3 of this piece of drivel and already I am both shocked and not shocked.  How can that be you ask?  Well I had hoped for a lot more.   It should have gone further and I suppose I had high hopes that for once in his miserable life, the pope would have done the right thing.   On the other hand it’s the usual tripe trotted out by the church when they get caught with their hands in something it shouldn’t be.  I’ll deal with this piece of garbage one section at a time.  To the letter…

    1. He’s concerned, deeply disturbed and dismayed by what happened to the children by the church.  He listened to the bishops and he is confident that things will get better.  The part I like is this, “I am confident that, as a result, the bishops will now be in a stronger position to carry forward the work of repairing past injustices and confronting the broader issues associated with the abuse of minors in a way consonant with the demands of justice and the teachings of the Gospel”.

    Repairing past injustices?  Does he really think this can be repaired?  He can’t honestly think that.  It must be the damage to the church he wants to repair.  No sane person could possibly think that what happened in that godforsaken country could possibly be put right.  Stopping it from happening again maybe, but repairing?  He is not in touch with the realities of the situation and the damage done to the children and families.  Actually I don’t think he is in touch with reality period!

    2. The first sentence of this section is nothing more than laying the blame directly on the Irish priesthood.  Nobody else’s fault whatsoever.  Bullshit Joe.  There were reports going on for a long time and you knew about them and have done nothing.  You did nothing and hoped  the Irish Priests would take care of it and it would go away.  Well it didn’t.  You are their leader and you didn’t lead.  You failed not only the priests, but the children.  This is YOUR failure Joe.

    Then he goes on to say that it isn’t only the Church that is abusing children.  How weak is that.  There is no defense in the defense of ‘others were doing it too’.  How bloody childish.

    Then he says, ‘the task you now face is to address the problem’.  What?  You’re leaving it up to them?  This is also of your doing, if only by closing your eyes to the facts and not stepping in sooner.

    “Perseverance and prayer are needed, with great trust in the healing power of God’s grace.”  Grow a freaking brain man.  If there was a God he wouldn’t have allowed this to happen to the children.  Even if we did allow for his existence, how can you follow someone who would allow this to happen?  You distance yourself from the priests who committed these despicable acts and from the bishops who knew and allowed it to go on for so long.  How is that any different from you and your god?  You both knew!

    “At the same time, I must also express my conviction that, in order to recover from this grievous wound, the Church in Ireland must first acknowledge before the Lord and before others the serious sins committed against defenseless children.”  Again, you distance yourself and lay blame on others alone.

    “As you take up the challenges of this hour”.  And again you distance yourself.  There seems to be a pattern emerging here.  One that we are not buying into either.

    “It is my prayer that, assisted by the intercession of her many saints and purified through penance, the Church in Ireland will overcome the present crisis and become once more a convincing witness to the truth and the goodness of Almighty God, made manifest in his Son Jesus Christ.”

    What kind of crap is this?  That is just thinking of the Church, not the children.  Where is the goodness of your god in any of what has happened?  Do you think he allowed this to happen as a test for the Church?  I am amazed at your callousness Joe.  To speak about the future of the church while the people are still in pain is to ignore them and what was done.  That is cold.

    3. You go on in this section to try and draw energy from the past.  Good works from the past do not negate the horrors the present has inflicted.  Try dealing with the situation now instead of attempting to distract people from the crimes committed by the Church.  Your Church.

    “Those Irish missionaries drew their strength and inspiration from the firm faith, strong leadership and upright morals of the Church in their native land.”

    How can you even say those words without choking?  You really are out of touch with the pain these people feel.

    Again, harking back to the past looking for support where there is none.  Then to make matters worse you spew this crap, “Many dioceses, especially in Africa, America and Australia, benefited from the presence of Irish clergy”.  The things that happened and are happening even now in these countries may not have been the fault alone of the Irish Catholic Priests, but the Church has done just as much harm in each one of those as it has done in Ireland.  If not more.  All you manage here is to offend the people of those countries.

    “In almost every family in Ireland, there has been someone – a son or a daughter, an aunt or an uncle – who has given his or her life to the Church.”  Only to be treated in this manner.  You should be ashamed.

    4. The first paragraph is just an attempt to divert attention and lay the blame on secular society.  Secular society did not abuse the children. Priests and Nuns did.  Your lot.  Take responsibility for your own actions instead of blaming the innocent once again.  The Church tried that centuries ago and is still paying the price.  That is not a road you want to go down.

    The second paragraph has one thing I agree with.  “Certainly, among the contributing factors we can include: inadequate procedures for determining the suitability of candidates for the priesthood and the religious life; insufficient human, moral, intellectual and spiritual formation in seminaries and novitiates.”  I’d prefer to shorten it and say “insufficient human, moral, intellectual and spiritual formation in the Church as a whole.”  After that we get “and have obscured the light of the Gospel to a degree that not even centuries of persecution succeeded in doing.”  What about the centuries of persecution the Church itself has inflicted upon the people?

    5. If you don’t step down, you’ll be meeting with a lot more abuse victims Joe.  A lot more.  That is unless you’re more heartless than I think you are.  Ireland is only one part of the larger picture.  You’ve tried to deflect attention on this matter by saying that it isn’t just the Church that commits these crimes.  That is true Joe.  What is also true is that there is no other organisation on this planet that practices child abuse to the extent that your beloved Church did, does and will continue to do until the day it breathes it’s last breath.

    6. You start off well, but then go on to say “It is in the communion of the Church that we encounter the person of Jesus Christ, who was himself a victim of injustice and sin.”  He was a victim of his own abuse.  He as your god, sent himself down as his own son for that to happen.  It was his own plan all along.  Who are you kidding?

    “I know some of you find it difficult even to enter the doors of a church after all that has occurred.”  I would advise them to nail the doors shut and never enter them again.  You and yours cannot be trusted.  You have shown that over a very long time.  Ever heard of ‘once bitten twice shy’?  Well you have bitten us way too many times and can’t be trusted any longer.  Go away.  Shut up shop and leave the people alone.  You are an anachronism and are no longer needed.

    “I pray that, by drawing nearer to Christ and by participating in the life of his Church – a Church purified by penance and renewed in pastoral charity – you will come to rediscover Christ’s infinite love for each one of you.”  Purified Joe?  How can it be pure considering what this letter is all about?  You call that a pure church?  And what will you do if one more child is hurt?  Say the same tired old thing again?  And again?  And again?

    7. Laying of blame on the priests again.  Yes, they committed the acts, but yet again you forget that you knew it was happening and failed in your duty of care and allowed it to continue with no real attempt to put an immediate stop to it.  You are just as guilty.

    “These children are the future of our world, and they must not be made to bear the ignominy of the past. We shall set a goal that ANY priest, or nun, of any rank involved in these activities shall be cast out of this church and subject to the law of the land wherein the offenses took place, and a zero-tolerance policy regarding sexual abuse will be in force from this day onward.”

     
    • eda 14:12 on March 23, 2010 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Brilliant! So well written and with amazing arguments. I love your precision and it pleases me a great deal that someone can say everything that ought to be said as well as you do. Thanks.

  • DistroMan 20:00 on March 22, 2010 Permalink
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    England to Australia, for some, Heaven to Hell… 

    Sections of the following article have been taken directly from the British Parliamentary Hearings into “THE WELFARE OF FORMER BRITISH CHILD MIGRANTS“.

    We now take a trip into the past.  Back to the late 1940′s when a bill was debated in the British Parliament that enabled legislation allowing the transportation of children from England to Australia.

    The House of Lords was told by the Lord Chancellor that “the Home Office intends to secure that children shall not be emigrated unless there is absolute satisfaction that proper arrangements have been made for the care and upbringing of each child”.  It is hard at this distance in time to know exactly what he considered ‘absolute satisfaction’ or  ‘assurances’, but they were definitely not what we would demand these days.

    Some of the children may have been orphans, but some definitely were not.  They were told ‘stories’ to get them to volunteer.

    Things like:

    “fanciful tales of travel to the ‘Land of Milk and Honey’ where children ride to school on horseback and pick up fruit on the side of the road”

    No parental consent:

    “I was very sad and angry knowing that I was one of the boys who was leaving, I was scared. My mother was never told what was going on.”

    One child was told his parents were dead, only to find out years later his mother had died in 1974.  Some parents were led to believe their children were being cared for in Britain by other families whereas the truth was that they had been shipped overseas.

    Who was doing this?  The Catholic Church and it’s agencies: Barnardo’s, the Catholic Child Welfare Council and the Children’s Society.

    Canon Fisher of the Catholic Child Welfare Council said to the hearing:

    “I think the bottom line of the professional decisions that were made at the time is still the bottom line that we use today, whether it is in the child’s best interests, and I rest my case there.”

    If that is the best they can come up with, they should never be allowed access to children of any age or in any form whatsoever, ever again.  That is the most inane argument I have ever heard.  How could any of what happened in the lead-up to their departure or after their arrival  on our shores be for the children’s welfare?

    There are allegations that documents such as birth records were falsified.  One of the children themselves has stated that 87% of the children taken from the Catholic Agencies came without parental consent and 96% of those had at least one parent still living.  It seems the Catholic Church really believes it knows what is best for our children.  This is their mentality.  Single men, never having had offspring of their own think they have a better understanding of what our children need.  Amazing isn’t it.

    Their idea was that to make things easier they should provide birth certificates in an abbreviated format, leaving out all parental details.  This would cut all ties I suppose.  They had no idea of the tenaciousness of these children.  Decades later, some of them still managed to find family.  But it was that not knowing about who they were and where they came from that caused much of the psychological damage.

    When they arrived in Australia many of them were split up.  Boy went one way and girls the other.  Siblings lost contact with each other almost immediately as they were dragged apart screaming to separate lodgings.  One of these children said, “Where it hit me particularly was when they dragged the brothers and sisters from one another, I can still hear the screams today.”

    When you take into account the deliberate falsification of information, withholding of information, separation of siblings, you have to ask what made them think it was the morally right thing to do.  What was the motivation behind the actions?

    The report issued in 1998 found an abuse of power and total disregard for the parents and children’s feelings.  Although I can’t disagree with that statement, I do regard it as a complete understatement.  I don’t know how I would word it if I was putting it into a government document, but I certainly would feel the need for stronger language.

    Another child migrant stated that, “England deserted us children in the most cruelest fashion in our biggest hour of need”.  Yet another talks of the mental and sexual outrages committed against him and said, “I am reminded of these experiences everyday of my life, however hard I try, I simply cannot forget”.

    Once they arrived here in Australia the treatment, far from getting better, only got worse.  Much worse.  They were made wards of the state which meant that the state within which they ended up should have been more vigilant in watching out for their welfare.  Sadly that was not the case.  In written evidence the Christian Brothers Ex-Residents’ Services have admitted:

    “We have no explanation, and there is clearly no excuse, for the apparent failure to monitor the child migrants when they were in care. A statement made by the counsellors at CBERS appears uncontestable, ‘there was clearly a breach of guardianship duties in sending the children in the way they were sent and in not monitoring their health and welfare sufficiently’. Furthermore, ‘there was a failure to care for them to contemporary standards’.”

    There are two cases that can make my blood boil and bring tears to my eyes at the same time.  I warn you now, not to read any further if you are not of a strong enough nature to handle the worst of mans depravity as the following is of that kind.  I have never heard of anything so bad before in all the cases I have read and hope  never to again.  So please, read no further till you are feeling strong enough and are alone.  You do not need to have children around in case you react in a very negative manner.  I admit that I did.  Our children are all moved out, but my wife did come running to see that was the matter.  So…

    The first case is of a blue-eyed boy.  The eyes, together with his looks made him a favourite of the Christian Brothers at Tardun to such an extent that they had bets to see who would be the first to rape this youngster 100 times.  This young fellow tried to hit his eyes so hard and often with the intent of changing their colour in the hope that his tormentors would leave him alone.  Then, as if to prove that they could be even more depraved they had the boy masturbate animals for their pleasure.

    I cannot say just how much I hate these people at the moment, but it’s a feeling I hope never to have again.  An eye for an eye is not something I have ever believed in until now and I detest them for making me feel this way.  They deserve it though.  It wasn’t like they didn’t know what they were doing was wrong because they then held the boy upside down over a well and threatened him not to tell what they had done to him.

    These children were so poorly fed that they took to raiding the pig bins to survive.  The boys were used as slave labour when buildings were needed.  One boy talks of the timber being stained with their blood.

    These children were told that whatever the priests did ‘was the will of god’.  How would you feel under those circumstances?  Lost? Without hope?  With no one to turn to it could not have been worse.  This is the humanity shown to children by the Catholic Church.

    It has been said at times when such things happen that it could be exceptional, that it was only in one place at one time, but in this case they don’t even have that defense.  The abuse went on in many different institutions at that time where these children were sent.  Tardun, Bindoon, Clontarf, Castledare in Western Australia, Neerkol in Queensland, Goodwood in South Australia  There is no excuse.

    The second case was about a girls who were flogged with “thick leather straps”.  One girl, at 15 years of ages was stripped and flogged in front of 50 other girls.  What is the need for such humiliation?  The Nuns never left them alone during inspections so that the truth couldn’t be told to the inspectors.  There were stories of head shaving and severe punishments for bedwetting.  The Nuns didn’t eat the crusts off their own bread.  They threw them on the floor and watched the girls scramble for the food.  How could grown women treat young girls in this manner?

    How does the Church feel now about the abuse they heaped upon the children?  They say they are sorry.  The heads of those organisations say though, that they didn’t know what was happening.  Where have we heard that before?  So, they are sorry are they?  What are they going to do about it?  Nothing.  The Western Australian cases can’t be heard there because of a 6 year limit on cases.  So they were taken to court in other states.  What happened?  The priests tried every legal avenue to have the cases moved to Western Australia knowing that then they’d be thrown out of court.  Well, there’s compassion for you.

    The last paragraph of this section of the report states in part:

    “one of our eyewitnesses expressing relief that he was now terminally ill.”

    There is no god.  Just an organisation riddled with sick, demented, sexually perverted deviates. I suggest that if you have made it this far, that after you finish, you may want to click the link at the top and read the whole section of this report regarding Australia.  There is much more than I have told you here.

    Recently in a comment to one of my blogs I was given the following comment by Loren Miller.  I like it so much that I have asked and been given permission to use it myself.  I was saving it for this article.  It will also adorn the bottom of each and every article I write about the Catholic Church in future.  I ask that others do the same, without changing the wording.

    We wait and hope for the day that we hear these words from the Pope:

    “These children are the future of our world, and they must not be made to bear the ignominy of the past. We shall set a goal that ANY priest, or nun, of any rank involved in these activities shall be cast out of this church and subject to the law of the land wherein the offenses took place, and a zero-tolerance policy regarding sexual abuse will be in force from this day onward.”

     
    • Sarah Doliani 23:39 on March 22, 2010 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      As an atheist, I have a hard time defining good and evil. They are words that signify the extremes of my beliefs. You have defined evil for me today.

  • DistroMan 21:00 on March 18, 2010 Permalink
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    Catholic Church: Always looking for greener pastures… 

    In recent weeks I’ve told you about abuse by Catholic Priests in Germany, Ireland, United States and Africa.  Tonight we switch to The Netherlands.  Dutch Catholic Bishops have ordered an investigation into more than 200 reported cases of child abuse dating back decades.

    Earlier, the Vatican defended its response to child sex abuse allegations in a number of European states, saying it had reacted rapidly and decisively.  That probably just means they made a quick decision to transfer the priests before any more cases came to light.

    It also emerged on Tuesday that the head of a Salzburg monastery, Bruno Becker, had offered his resignation on Monday after confessing to having abused a boy 40 years ago, when he was a monk.  Church authorities accepted his resignation immediately.

    With all the cases I have spoken about, we know it has been going on for a lot longer than they admit.  It didn’t just start in the 70′s.  We know it was happening back in the 50′s and earlier.  This is NOT a new phenomenon.  It is not a case of a few bad apples.  It IS a case of a lot of bad apples.  The Catholic Church is rife with pedophiles.  I know it, you know it and they know it.

    The German, Austrian, Irish and US churches have all been damaged by sexual abuse scandals, and suggestions that senior clergy covered up what was happening.  So finding out about The Netherlands should come as no surprise to anyone.

    What also doesn’t surprise me is the reaction from the Church themselves.  Earlier on Tuesday, a Vatican spokesman said in a statement the sexual abuse scandals were especially deplorable given the educational and moral responsibilities of the Catholic Church, but that the institutions in Germany, Austria and the Netherlands had shown that it wanted to be transparent.

    “They have demonstrated their desire for transparency and, in a certain sense, accelerated the emergence of the problem by inviting victims to speak out, even when the cases involved date from many years ago,” said Father Federico Lombardi.

    In a certain sense?  What the hell is that supposed to mean?  Probably just that they were caught and want to save face by any means.

    Yeah, of course they want to be transparent.  Sure they do.  NOT!  That is why Pope Joe wrote a document setting out how to conduct their own investigations and how to go about getting all documentation to the Vatican while not telling local authorities.  If you read The Decree Crimen you will immediately see that they have no intention whatsoever of cooperating with local authorities.  These guys consider themselves above the law. Tell me when you last heard of them coming forward and admitting to something as soon as they found out about it.  You can’t, because they don’t.  It’s only after the facts have come out.

    It’s far too late for all this carrying on and expecting forgiveness from nearly everyone.  Of course there are a few who are happy with an apology, but they aren’t the abused.  This from a BBS reporter:

    The worldwide media publicity given to the scandals has proved disconcerting to the Vatican, says the BBC’s David Willey in Rome. It is doing its best to limit the moral damage caused to the church by stressing that paedophilia is a problem not limited to Catholic institutions and teachers, but which must be tackled in a broader context within civil society, our correspondent adds.

    Once again I ask you, what happens if you or I commit this crime?  We get arrested, charged, brought before a court, found guilty and jailed.

    What happens with Priests?  Mainly, they get away with it.  The church will pay off the families of the abused and get them to sign a vow of secrecy.  Then they go on their merry way doing it all over again.

    They are TAX EXEMPT because they are a religion and they should be using that money for charitable works.

    1. I don’t see the money being used to pay off the families as charity.
    2. I don’t see the money the courts make them pay to the abused as charity.
    3. I don’t see the money being spent on Public Relations firms as charity.
    4. I don’t see the money being spent on lawyers as charity.

    To the victims of abuse in Catholic boarding schools, the religious leaders and bishops offer their deep-felt condolences and apologies.

    How much pain do they think that will ease?  Or is it just meant to help wash the blood off their hands?

    FOR SHAME JOE, FOR SHAME

     
  • DistroMan 20:00 on March 8, 2010 Permalink
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    Woo needs life support, Pope runs around with cross at the ready… 

    At the moment it seems he is worried by the Spanish Government’s opposition to the Catholic Church.  Once a stronghold of catholicism, they have of late, been turning their collective backs on Old Joe.  They have made it easier to  access abortion, legalised gay marriage and started moves to reduce payments to the church under the ridiculous treaty they have with the Vatican.

    Then, to thumb their noses at Joe again, they fast tracked divorce and said they would even send a million condoms to Africa.  You have to love these guys.  I hope other countries are taking note and seeing just how easy it is to save money and help the world in a real way.

    But if this really worries Joe the Pope, why is he leaving it till November to go there?  I wonder what else has his attention?

    Could it be because Vatican chorister, Chinediu Thiomas Ehiem has been pimping for Papal Gentleman, Angelo Balducci, former head of the Italian office of public works?  Was Balducci just an intermediary for someone else in the Vatican?  Was he just being used so that someone else higher up was kept anonymous?

    Is Joe worried about more priests outing themselves publicly on television like a senior priest in the Holy See did in October 2007?  How many more will he have to ‘suspend’ ?  Will priests take to the streets in a gay priest pride march?  Can we look forward to the inaugural Vatican Mardi Gras?

    Or could it be that Joe’s brother Rev. Georg Ratzinger, is going to testify about a sex scandal in Germany’s Regensburger Domspatzen choir?  Good ol’ Georg says they were tough on the boys, but they never did anything inappropriate.  The boys, now men, have a different story and Georg wants to cooperate.  He says, “If they ask me to give testimony, obviously I’d be very ready to do so, but I am not able to provide any information on any deed that could be punished, because I don’t have any, I never knew anything about it.”

    Yeah, sure thing Georg, we all believe you.  I hope Joe is paying for a good lawyer.

    Is Joe’s 2005 change to their stance on homosexuality coming back to haunt him?  From a CNN report: In an eagerly awaited document, the Vatican has reiterated its policy against gay priests, but has said, “it would allow those who have “clearly overcome” homosexual tendencies to start the process of becoming a priest.”

    Maybe his upcoming trip to the UK is causing him some sleepless nights too.  There is a large movement in the UK to stop their government from funding his trip.  Day by day more voices are being added to the call to stop wasting the taxpayers money on an anachronistic religion.

    Could it be the problems the Vatican is having with the Italian Courts then?  You have to wonder how the Vatican, with all the money they have, can get itself in hot holy water over money laundering.  Or is this how they made so much?  The Italian investigative weekly Panorama, in its early December 2009 issue, claims prosecutors are probing transactions totalling 180 million euros handled between 2006 and 2008 by Vatican bank (IOR) accounts held at Unicredit’s branch near the Vatican in Rome’s Via della Conciliazione.

    Poor Joe must have ulcers with all this weighing so heavily upon his cold old shoulders.  He should resign.  Oh, they don’t do that do they!  Being elected Pope is a death sentence.  Silly me, I’d forgotten about that.

    Just to round things off, how about the fellow Joe jailed for 4 or 6 months, depending on which report you read, for drug possession?  Did you know they actually can have you before their own court?  Did you know they have their own jail? It may not get a lot of use, but it’s there.  Also, it seems strange that the reports didn’t mention what he was doing with the drugs.  Was it for his own use, or was it for someone else inside the Vatican?  Cocaine-laced wine was a favourite tipple of Pope Leo XIII, who died in 1903.  Just sayin…

    Maybe Joe is being distracted by the US trying to have needle exchange policy passed by the UN.  He has been making enough noise about it.  It is his belief that we are better of letting drug users die than allowing needle exchange.  After all, good catholics wouldn’t be affected would they, so why should he care?

    After talking about Vatican Sex, we’ve spoken about Vatican Drugs.  So what else is there?  You should be able to guess.  There is always three things.  Ok, I’ll give you a hint.  Sex, Drugs and …..

    Got it yet?  No?

    Ok, ok, I’ll tell you.  It’s Vatican Sex, Vatican Drugs and Vatican Rock and Roll.  Yes, you heard me.  They are getting into music now.  Well, at least they are publishing their rock and roll top ten.  Guess who the Vatican says is their top ten.  Here is the list.

    1. The Beatles, Revolver
    2. Pink Floyd, The Dark Side of the Moon
    3. Oasis, (What’s the Story) Morning Glory
    4. Michael Jackson, Thriller
    5. U2, Achtung Baby
    6. Fleetwood Mac, Rumours
    7. Donald Fagen, The Nightfly
    8. Carlos Santana, Supernatural
    9. Paul Simon, Graceland
    10. David Crosby, If I Could Only Remember My Name

    So there you have it.  The Vatican is definitely either on or is in desperate need of life support.  As a supporter of euthanasia, I’m voting to have it denied or removed.  Let the near lifeless corpse that is the Roman Catholic Church die.  Let it rot and the sooner the better.

    REST IN PEACE ROT IN HELL

     
  • DistroMan 20:00 on March 4, 2010 Permalink
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    Who has the authority to stop the Catholic Church? 

    In quite a few of the 52 previous blog articles I have written I have made mention many times of the Catholic Church and the ongoing problem of priests raping underage boys, girls and nuns, and of priests ‘suggesting’ abortion to those they made pregnant.  I, as a victim said, will not call this ‘sexual abuse’ anymore.  It is rape and it should be called that.  No more being gentle about this just because it is the ‘church’ we are talking about.  We are literally talking mass rape.  This never was and is not now a problem we can say tsk tsk to and hope it won’t happen again.  The Catholic Church has made a mockery of itself and it’s followers faith in the church.  They have thumbed their noses at the law in each and every country they have set up shop in.  They have ignored the people’s call for justice time and time again.  How has this happened?  Probably because the church buys immunity. For instance, look at how they ‘bought’ themselves a treaty with Russia and what happens in other countries…

    Russia: The existence of this verbal agreement, sealed between the Vatican and the Kremlin in August 1962, is solidly established. The Communist press made allusion to it almost immediately. In January 1963 in “France Nouvelle,” central weekly of the French Communist party, Jean-Claude Poulain wrote: “The Church can no longer satisfy itself with coarse anticommunism. She has even taken the promise, on the occasion of her dialogue with the Russian Orthodox Church, that there would not be any direct attack against the Communist regime at the Council.” Link

    92.3 million deaths by communism and the Vatican can make a deal to ‘keep quiet’.

    Slovakia: The community-wide discussion has been none of events which the authors of the Vatican Treaty Draft wanted.  In their efforts to postpone to the maximum the time when some aspects of the document will need to be deciphered. The treaty is namely not an international agreement of two nations, i.e. treaty with the miniature “Stato della Citt del Vaticano”, which has about one thousand citizens living on an area of 0, 44 km2 , but an exclusive and totally asymmetric contract between a sovereign State and an ideology represented by the subject of Apostolic Seat, acknowledged as a diplomatic subject. This treaty is to codify the mutual relations between Slovakia and a monolithic life stance, which aspires to be global and supra-national. Just that one which historically left behind in Europe (along with other religions) its positive imprints, but many a time stood behind historical conflicts , wars, and terror. Link

    Brazil: The concordat imports foreign law into Brazil by stipulating that Canon (or Church) Law be used in Catholic institutions. Because this includes Church-run social services, concordats act to impose Canon Law on both their lay employees and their clients. In Germany this is a widespread problem, particularly acute for anyone, like gays or the divorced, whose private life does not accord with Canon Law.  Link

    Poland: The concordat also acts as a foot in the door to proselytise children in state schools. In Poland it only took twenty years for the establishment of voluntary unpaid catechism in state schools to be transformed bit by bit into lessons in Catholic doctrine which, in much of the country, has become effectively compulsory, is now paid for by the state and even counts in the grade average.  Link

    Australia: The cost of the papal trips to the German and French taxpayers may never be known, but the price tag that the Church got an Australian premier to hide has finally been revealed by the Auditor General. On the heels of embarrassing figures showing that the papal youth jamboree scared off tourists, the government of New South Wales has belatedly released figures on the budget shortfall of World Youth Day, July 2008. As a visiting head of state, Benedict XVI had his accommodation and (massive) security paid for by his hosts and now the taxpayers will have to come up with 100 million Australian dollars more.  Link

    Germany: The enormous power of both Catholic and Protestant churches in Germany today is not due solely to the concordats or church-state agreements. The privileges that these pacts give to the churches are amplified by another fateful German innovation. It was the 1919 Constitution of the democratic Weimar Republic which gave the churches wide latitude in substituting their own regulations for the law of the land. Link

    Britain: A generation after the failed attempt to secure fealty from the king, the Vatican managed to  tighten its grip on Britain through the world’s first concordat [4], the 1107 Concordat of London. The English king was forced by threats of excommunication to sign the concordat. Link

    Am I not being clear enough for you?  How about the Vatican trying to control our legal systems by telling Catholic lawyers what they can and cannot do contrary to our state and national laws?

    Lawyers, as independent professionals, should always decline the use of their profession for an end that is contrary to justice, as is divorce. They can only cooperate in this kind of activity when, in the intention of the client, it is not directed to the break-up of the marriage, but to the securing of other legitimate effects that can only be obtained through such a judicial process in the established legal order (cf. Catechism of the Catholic Church, n. 2383). In this way, with their work of assisting and reconciling persons who are going through a marital crises, lawyers truly serve the rights of the person and avoid becoming mere technicians at the service of any interest whatever. Link

    The Vatican now tell us what is and is not justice in our own countries.

    Now I hope you see how much influence they have.  I suggest everyone try and find out what is in the treaty that your country has with the Vatican, if indeed they do have one. You might be surprised.  If they’ll let you see it.  Don’t be surprised if the Freedom of Information Act in your country doesn’t cover this document.

    Getting back to the original point of this post, I would like to know who has power to do something about the lack of accountability and immunity from justice the Catholic Church has in this world.  A lot of countries seem to be hogtied by these concordats/treaties.  Then how about the United Nations themselves?  Are so many countries under the thumb of Joe the Pope Ratsinger that even the UN is toothless?  It seems so.  As the UN is made up of delegates from those hogtied countries I doubt we could expect any help there either.   But we should expect it.  We should force them to live up to the Human Rights Document they themselves made up years ago to protect the rights of children.  Or was that just a smokescreen like so much else we see these days.

    Everyone ‘says’ they want to do ‘something’, but nobody ever puts the words into action.  We can’t change it on our own, but we can force our governments to do so if we speak up loud enough.  This really is going to take a massive outcry from the people themselves.  If we can show them what has happened, what is happening and why it has and is still happening, maybe they’ll speak up too.  But we have to tell them.  Talking amongst ourselves isn’t working.  I’m telling more and more people all the time.  We need you to do the same.

    THIS ‘REALLY’ IS FOR THE CHILDREN

     
    • Nathan 17:16 on March 8, 2010 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Dunno.. China’s probably done a good job at extracting the pope as head of catholic church.. But then again they’re also censoring the entire internet and killing lots of people for deviant thought.. Perhaps not the best example.

  • DistroMan 20:00 on March 2, 2010 Permalink
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    To the followers of the Catholic Church with love… 

    I’ve talked about the US, Australia, Germany, Ireland and Africa, but today my friends we take a trip to The Netherlands. Once again the Holy Roman Kiddy Chasers have been caught with their dingle dangling.

    Deep Breath…

    The stories go back at least as far as 1964 and all the way up to 1994 or later. We can’t be sure, because too much is being ignored yet again. At the Don Rua monastery in the town of ‘s-Heerenberg in the east of the Netherlands the priests have what you might call a captive audience.  80 to 100 boys sleeping in dormitories.  It must have been like being left alone in a candy store to them.

    There have been nearly 300 reports since 1995 (of girls and boys) and even the people charged with investigating the crime have given up because the church is playing their usual ‘if we wait long enough it will go away’ game.  Yvo van Kuijck, former chairman of the independent Assessment and Advisory Committee said, “I didn’t get the impression that dealing with sexual abuse was a priority for them.”

    From Radio Netherlands Worldwide website:

    In the period that Janne Geraets was abused at the Don Rua boarding school, the current Bishop of Rotterdam, Ad van Luyn, was working there as a teacher. In the 1970s, Bishop Van Luyn was provincial head of the Salesians. Since 2008 he has chaired the Netherlands Synod of Bishops.

    Ad van Luyn declines to discuss “past issues”. Through a spokesman, he explains that “matters relating to the congregation are the responsibility of the current father superior, even if they relate to previous governors.”

    Father Herman Spronck, currently the most senior Salesian in the Netherlands, denies all knowledge of abuse in ’s-Heerenberg, and refers all inquiries to his predecessors. He is not opposed to an investigation and is keen to emphasise that sexual abuse goes against the vow taken by the Fathers of Don Bosco. “At Don Bosco, the inviolable sanctity of youth is key to our system of education.”

    The buck is passed up and the buck is passed down.  None of this surprises me.  You’d be forgiven for thinking they learn this in priest school because you hear it everytime one of these scandals breaks wide open.  Oh, you’re not going to believe this. Guess what the church did about it.  They transferred the priests to another parish to start over again.  What is that supposed to be?  A punishment?

    “Hey, you got caught you naughty priest.  Just for that we’re transferring you so you’ll have to go through a short period of celibacy until you can find another target.  Now don’t let it happen again.”

    This is supposed to impress who?  It’s not impressing me.  It’s not impressing the parents of these children and I’m damn sure the kids are sick of it.

    This has got to stop.  I know it and you know it, but for some reason the Vatican doesn’t seem to be able to assimilate this piece of information.

    What is going on?  How can they get away with constant abuse of children for decades on end and no government anywhere in the world has the balls to say ‘enough’.  It will only take one to start things.  There are always those waiting for someone else to step forward before they speak up and try to look like they were about to go first, but were beaten to it.

    Now I’ll tell you what is going on.  At least from the Catholic Community’s side of things.  They see the story in the paper or hear it on the radio or tv and say to ourselves, “There they go again, making us look bad”.  Well yeah!  Because you only say “There they go again”.  Don’t just say that.  If you think it’s wrong, then think harder about how wrong you think it is and keep thinking till you get angry.  Think how you’d feel if it had been you.  Think how you’d feel if it had been your child.  Think how you’d feel if it was your granddchild.  Get angry.  Very angry.  Then think about what you can do to help those kids.

    I’ll tell you what it is you can do.  Help the kids that are next in line.  Don’t let them become victims.  Speak up and stop the priests from touching another child.  They must never be allowed to be alone with another child.  Ever.

    Think about this.  If any company had employees worldwide, that were abusing as many children as the Catholic Church has been and had gotten caught the way they have, what would have happened?  All employees caught would be sacked/suspended, arrested, charged, convicted, jailed and with a little luck, left to rot.  Does any of this happen to the church?  No.  Why?  Because you won’t stand up and say something.

    Yet again, the Holy Roman Kiddy Chasers live to fiddle another day

     
  • DistroMan 22:34 on February 11, 2010 Permalink
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    How do we fix things? 

    There is a cancer in the world today and it is Fundamentalist Faith. Notice that I’m not saying it’s religion. I’m talking about the fundies who take things to the extreme and believe the ‘word of god’ LITERALLY. I’m talking about those who really believe that killing non-believers is a good thing. I’m talking about those who kill doctors in the name of their god. I’m talking about those who will not allow gays into their church. I’m talking about those who will not allow non believers into children’s groups, e.g. Boy Scouts of America. I’m talking about those who would take away the right to vote from women. I’m talking about those who would blow up a bus. I’m talking about adults who would spout abuse at children of atheists. I’m talking about people who would put children up on stage and allow them to evangelise. I’m talking about those who indoctrinate children. I’m talking about newsreaders and talk show hosts who make fun of atheists bus campaigns just because they work for Fox News. Hey, gotta make the boss happy don’t you.

    They can’t sit there and make fun of a group of African Americans who are fighting for true equality, because that would be bad for business and against the law. Of course Atheists are not protected by law so the bullies hiding behind the cameras make immature and puerile jokes in a manner I haven’t seen since my preteen days in school. These people should be ashamed of themselves and the Fox Network should publicly denounce everything they said.

    Whenever a Muslim Cleric has a rant about hating the west and xtians, the xtians get all upset. Poor diddums. Poor little you with your heart all broken. Well grow a pair the whole freaking lot of you. If you want to dish it out, expect to get it back. It’s about time xtian fundies grew up and gave the respect they demand so vehemently for themselves, to others.  Maybe other cultures would not hate us so much if it wasn’t for the arrogance dished out by these arseholes.

    Love they neighbour doesn’t seem to matter much to them. It looks like they figured out that the bible only means to love thy friend and fellow believer. Wow, that’s so loving and wise. Everytime you turn around these days you can hear them preaching love and kindness. Preach all you want, how about living it? Or is it only that you want everyone to love you, while at the same time you piss on the rest of humanity from the great height at which you place yourselves? It’s time this crap stopped. How can we possibly call countries like America, Australia and England etc, progressive, first world, civilised societies when the rest of the world sees this going on day after day, week after week, year after year? If you want those titles then you have to live up to them. Stop being such freaking hypocrites.  It really shouldn’t be so hard. But it is. And you know why? Because governments in all these countries are pandering to the religious lobby groups. It has to stop before it rips us apart. Religious extremism has done it before and will do it again unless it is stopped.

    How? Show them what they are doing that is not what they preach and tell them they have no power and will not be listened to till they fix the problems within their ranks. You do it to other groups. You do it to businesses. How many times have businesses been told that the government will not work with them till they toe the line. Religion should be no different.

    My personal preference would be to make religion a personal thing only and not to allow it to intrude into other areas of society whatsoever. You want to believe? Pray? Preach? Fine, but do it in your home or your church. No more coming to my door annoying me. Keep your freaking signs inside instead of out near the road so you can insult passersby. No more evangelist television. Keep it personal. We don’t want to hear your shit any more than you wish to hear ours, but if you are going to keep it up, expect to hear a lot more from us. It won’t stop. We will keep coming. You will not be allowed to ruin our countries.

    TO QUOTE FATHER JACK HACKETT – FECK OFF!

     
  • DistroMan 01:38 on February 4, 2010 Permalink
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    Joseph Ratzinger is at it again… 

    Joseph Ratzinger, aka, The Pope, is once again sticking his nose into business that doesn’t concern him. He has his own little country to rule (Vatican City), but seemingly it’s not enough for him. Every chance he gets he’s trying to tell other countries what to do. This time it is England. Joe is speaking out about new laws they are about to enact. It’s not as if he is English. He doesn’t even live there. Not that they’d want a meddling old fool like him there full time anyway. Even Italy, which you would think would be more amenable to being bullied by Joe, don’t take any notice of him. He is told quite often to keep his nose out of their politics.

    It doesn’t take a Phd. to understand people. Religion is religion and politics is politics. They are different and should be kept apart. A secular government rules for all. A religious government rules for the religious at the expense of the non-religious. Nobody would give a hoot if Joe kept his preaching to his followers and just took care of them, which he’s doing a lousy job of anyway. There are way too many Catholics in dire need of help, but would he sell one piece of artwork on ebay and donate that to the cause? Not likely.

    So what makes Joe and his posse think that the rest of the world need him to start running their lives? It’s the height of arrogance.

    Oh, pooh pooh me all you want, but name one country that is telling the Vatican how to rule itself? You can’t because they respect their right to rule themselves how they see fit as long as they aren’t harming others in the process. So why don’t they pay the same respect to other countries? Because he thinks he is God’s gift to the world. It’s a Pope thing. Comes with the girly hat.

    Either way, I don’t care. What I do care about though is that this is my country. I’m a citizen here. I get to vote here and my vote should count. My one lousy vote should count for a hell of a lot more than the opinion of Joe Ratzinger. Actually his opinion shouldn’t count for anything outside of The Vatican and Catholic Churches. And if that Catholic Church is here in Australia then they should obey our laws. If we as a nation say that people should not discriminate against gays when hiring employees, then they should follow those rules too.

    I think most of us would have been brought up to believe that you treat other peoples homes with respect. That should go for countries as well. Don’t dump your rubbish over our fence Joe. It’s disrespectful dude.

    Oh, and I might add that it stinks that all UK taxpayers, even those not of the RC persuasion have to foot the bill for Joe’s £20m holiday there.

    HOW MANY WAYS CAN YOU SAY ‘WRONG’

     
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